# Crons advice needed

**URL:** <https://forum.mautic.org/t/crons-advice-needed/12438>\
**Category:** Product Support\
**Created:** [January 26, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/crons-advice-needed/12438 "2020-01-26T22:30:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![mehargags](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mehargags/32/679_2.png) [@mehargags](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mehargags)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/crons-advice-needed/12438/1 "2020-01-26T22:30:58Z")

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Mautic **v2.15.3** running on **PHP 7.2** on a  
**Debian 10** AWS EC2 using **SES for email sending**.

Hi all,  
I recently migrated a Mautic instance and have some doubts over which Crons are absolutely needed and which can be avoided or scheduled with lesser frequency. I also found the previous cPanel had crons setup without any clue (_after watching YouTube video_) so I was scrutinizing them and seek your opinion.

I’m an experienced SysAdmin (not a developer) and I have already read through the help page thoroughly [https://www.mautic.org/docs/en/setup/cron\_jobs.html](https://www.mautic.org/docs/en/setup/cron_jobs.html)

Here are the ones I guess essentials:  
mautic:segments:update  
mautic:campaigns:update  
mautic:campaigns:trigger

**mautic:email:fetch**  
If using AWS SNS topics to fetch bounces, I guess I don’t need ?

**mautic:webhooks:process**  
… this is something else I guess where data is pushed to web hooks and not pulled ? Correct me if I’m wrong

**mautic:email:process**  
Email is queued and sent through SES SMTP and not the local MTA so do I still need this “Queued Delivery” cron ? I will very soon switch to send thru SES API as soon as it is production ready in Mautic.

**mautic:webhooks:process**  
What does it do ? Is it sending data out to a webhook or fetching in data through a webhook ? Where can I check what webhooks are configured / attached ?

**mautic:leadslist:update**

- no commands defined, gives a bunch of options when I try through CLI. This was just there in the previous cPanel but I can’t see it mentioned anywhere in docs/reference/forums.

**mautic:broadcasts:send**  
Can’t really understand the docs, anyone who can explain a bit more in details please ?

**mautic:iplookup:download**  
_(this stopped working for everyone on Dec 30, 2019)_

- fails to download. I went to MaxMind site and it seems they phased out downloading directly. you need to signup, get a lic. Key and setup update mechanism. [Ref.](https://blog.maxmind.com/2019/12/18/significant-changes-to-accessing-and-using-geolite2-databases/)

I can set it up with Lic. Key and Auth as they suggest… but I want to know if this is even used or needed in general ? I can ask the end-client if something specific to it.

Many Thanks

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**Author:** ![maumatic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/maumatic/32/3284_2.png) [@maumatic](https://forum.mautic.org/u/maumatic)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/crons-advice-needed/12438/2 "2020-01-27T10:05:35Z")

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My 2 cents:  
here are my cron jobs on a working mautic install

```
*/5 * * * * /bin/php /var/www/my.mautic.com/app/console mautic:segments:update > /dev/null 2>&1
1,6,11,16,21,26,31,36,41,46,51,56 * * * * /bin/php /var/www/my.mautic.com/app/console mautic:campaigns:rebuild > /dev/null
2,7,12,17,22,27,32,37,42,47,52,57 * * * * /bin/php /var/www/my.mautic.com/app/console mautic:campaigns:trigger > /dev/null
13,28,43,58 * * * * /bin/php /var/www/my.mautic.com/app/console mautic:import
* * * * * /bin/php /var/www/my.mautic.com/app/console mautic:emails:send > /dev/null 2>&1

```

I’m using a local postfix to send out emails  
I don’t think my setup deals with bounces

Hope this helps

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**Author:** ![silavapi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/silavapi/32/7424_2.png) [@silavapi](https://forum.mautic.org/u/silavapi)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/crons-advice-needed/12438/3 "2020-01-27T11:24:49Z")

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Hi there @mehargags and welcome back to the Mautic Community Forums!

I would really recommend taking a look at the excellent thread here: [Cron Jobs - what's the difference?](https://forum.mautic.org/t/cron-jobs-whats-the-difference/11177/3) by @virgilwashere - it’s quite a comprehensive round-up of the cron jobs with a lot of detail if you wanted to know more.

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**Author:** ![Yosu\_Cadilla](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/yosu_cadilla/32/6206_2.png) [@Yosu\_Cadilla](https://forum.mautic.org/u/Yosu_Cadilla)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/crons-advice-needed/12438/4 "2020-01-28T00:16:05Z")

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Hello @mehargags, and welcome back to the forums!

I’m trying to keep a list of “mandatory” and optional Cron Jobs this post:

> **[Mautic cron jobs: Which ones to use? | mauteam.org](https://mauteam.org/mautic/mautic-admins/mautic-cron-jobs-which-ones-to-use/)**
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> There are many Mautic cron jobs you can use in your Mautic installation, but Mautic can get resource hungry over time, so you don’t really want to run them all, in fact, that would be a great mistake…

Hope it is useful to you…
