# Export-Import data (forms, campaigns, contacts)

**URL:** <https://forum.mautic.org/t/export-import-data-forms-campaigns-contacts/32536>\
**Category:** Mautic 5 Install/Upgrade Support\
**Created:** [June 25, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/export-import-data-forms-campaigns-contacts/32536 "2024-06-25T12:22:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![mojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mojo/32/543_2.png) [@mojo](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mojo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/export-import-data-forms-campaigns-contacts/32536/1 "2024-06-25T12:22:59Z")

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We are currently working on Mautic 3.3.4 and are considering migrating to 5.1

However, instead of migrating to the current 5.1, I would like to create a new installation, a new environment on the latest 5.1 and import data from the current system into it.

However, it turns out that I cannot export many of the items and data I have.  
For example, I cannot export current forms and campaigns.  
How can I move them from 3.3 to 5.1?  
How to do it?

Only contacts? [Search — Mautic Documentation 0.1 documentation](https://docs.mautic.org/en/5.x/search.html?q=import&check_keywords=yes&area=default&_gl=1*12pl0gk*_ga*MTEzNTM5MjY2MS4xNzE4NjM2NTIw*_ga_ZRB8436CFL*MTcxOTMxNzc2Mi42LjEuMTcxOTMxNzc4OC4zNC4wLjA).

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**Author:** ![kuzmanyy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/kuzmanyy/32/390_2.png) [@kuzmanyy](https://forum.mautic.org/u/kuzmanyy)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/export-import-data-forms-campaigns-contacts/32536/2 "2024-06-26T11:12:55Z")

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The best way is to follow the standard migration based on the documentation. If for some reason you don’t want to do that, you could theoretically try the following:

- Install Mautic 4, replace the database from M3, then run doctrine:migrations:migrate and doctrine:schema:update -force
- Next, install Mautic 5 and do the same for M5

However, you will need some level of skill for this method.
