# From 3.3.4 to 5.1?

**URL:** <https://forum.mautic.org/t/from-3-3-4-to-5-1/32411>\
**Category:** Mautic 3 - Install/Upgrade Support\
**Created:** [June 18, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/from-3-3-4-to-5-1/32411 "2024-06-18T08:47:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![mojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mojo/32/543_2.png) [@mojo](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mojo)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/from-3-3-4-to-5-1/32411/1 "2024-06-18T08:47:32Z")

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Hi

We are working on version 3.3.4  
php v. 7.3

Unfortunately, we were unable to upgrade to newer versions earlier ☹

Can we switch directly to version 5.1.0 or do we have to make subsequent transitions from 3.3.4 to 4.0 and then 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4 to 5.1.0?

Thx

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**Author:** ![ricfreire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/ricfreire/32/14973_2.png) [@ricfreire](https://forum.mautic.org/u/ricfreire)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/from-3-3-4-to-5-1/32411/2 "2024-06-19T14:02:33Z")

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Hello @mojo,

If you have a Mautic instance with a relatively small number of leads and campaigns, I suggest installing a brand new Mautic instance, with the lastest version.

Upgrading from version 3 to 5 can be quite challenging, especially if you have a large amount of data. It will also take a lot of time, but it’s not impossible. The correct upgrade path is from 3 to 4 and then from 4 to 5, like you wrote.

Best regards,  
Ricardo

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**Author:** ![mojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mojo/32/543_2.png) [@mojo](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mojo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/from-3-3-4-to-5-1/32411/3 "2024-06-19T17:43:07Z")

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Thank you for your response.  
I don’t know why, but I didn’t think about installing the new 5.1 and importing my data from the current version.  
It actually solves a lot of problems.

Is there a simple system for importing leads and campaigns in Mautic 5.1?  
I only see the import of contacts and settings, but no campaigns or leads  
at [Search — Mautic Documentation 0.1 documentation](https://docs.mautic.org/en/5.x/search.html?q=import&check_keywords=yes&area=default)

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**Author:** ![joeyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/joeyk/32/11164_2.png) [@joeyk](https://forum.mautic.org/u/joeyk)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/from-3-3-4-to-5-1/32411/4 "2024-06-26T22:32:54Z")

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There is no feature to import campaigns in Mautic at the momment. Campaigns rely on many assets, like emails, segments, tags, etc. It is very tricky.