# My 3.0 version of Mautic does not have php mail as a choice for sending email **URL:** \ **Category:** Product Support\ **Tags:** mautic-3\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/my-3-0-version-of-mautic-does-not-have-php-mail-as-a-choice-for-sending-email/17707 "2021-01-08T19:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/my-3-0-version-of-mautic-does-not-have-php-mail-as-a-choice-for-sending-email/17707/1 "2021-01-08T19:35:24Z")
**Your software** My Mautic version is:3.0 My PHP version is:7.4 My Database type and version is:mysql **Your problem** My problem is: on my version on another site shows php mail is available as a choice on that version… however when I loaded version 3.0 it is not in the dropdown… Can anyone tell me if that is a change in 3.0 removal of php mail as a mail sending method… I have looked at all my versions before 3.0 and they all have it but the new 3.0 I am now installing. ---
**Author:** ![EJL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/ejl/32/12155_2.png) [@EJL](https://forum.mautic.org/u/EJL)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/my-3-0-version-of-mautic-does-not-have-php-mail-as-a-choice-for-sending-email/17707/2 "2021-01-09T00:30:38Z")
I believe php mail was removed in Mautic 3+ ---
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/my-3-0-version-of-mautic-does-not-have-php-mail-as-a-choice-for-sending-email/17707/4 "2021-01-09T16:12:47Z")
Hey aerendir, Thanks for that I think however i have other sites using php mail for years without problems… Could you enlighten me on what you have seen as problems so that I may look and see if I have some of those same problems… and also do you know why it was removed from Mautic… have the problems been that bad… Thanks for any helpful advice that you may offer… Tom ---
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/my-3-0-version-of-mautic-does-not-have-php-mail-as-a-choice-for-sending-email/17707/5 "2021-01-09T16:14:22Z")
Thanks for the EJL… as it backup my beliefs… do you have any idea why it was removed… it has worked well for me in the past… ---
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/my-3-0-version-of-mautic-does-not-have-php-mail-as-a-choice-for-sending-email/17707/6 "2021-01-09T16:23:37Z")
I responded to your comment below but not sure you received it since the pix marker says i must have clicked the general reply button instead… ---
**Author:** ![EJL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/ejl/32/12155_2.png) [@EJL](https://forum.mautic.org/u/EJL)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/my-3-0-version-of-mautic-does-not-have-php-mail-as-a-choice-for-sending-email/17707/7 "2021-01-10T18:55:23Z")
I don’t have any insider knowledge on why it was removed. I recall reading a change log or something similar that indicated it was “deprecated “ as a function within Mautic and removed. I can’t think of a mission critical use case that couldn’t be adapted to a SMTP server, but if you are the exception you could explore adding it back to your instance. I don’t have an opinion on how that can be done ---
**Author:** ![silavapi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/silavapi/32/7424_2.png) [@silavapi](https://forum.mautic.org/u/silavapi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/my-3-0-version-of-mautic-does-not-have-php-mail-as-a-choice-for-sending-email/17707/8 "2021-01-10T23:31:14Z")
It was replaced with sendmail due to deprecations. See the configuration section: [https://github.com/mautic/mautic/blob/92ea60540a0b015a04860387d67b79327a9de97c/UPGRADE-3.0.md](https://github.com/mautic/mautic/blob/92ea60540a0b015a04860387d67b79327a9de97c/UPGRADE-3.0.md) > ‘mail’ option was removed in SwiftMailer 6, other options should keep working as-is