# New install with prior database possible?

**URL:** <https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960>\
**Category:** Product Support\
**Created:** [April 18, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960 "2020-04-18T15:14:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![bulgin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/bulgin/32/1001_2.png) [@bulgin](https://forum.mautic.org/u/bulgin)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/1 "2020-04-18T15:14:11Z")

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**Your software**  
My Mautic version is: 2.16.0  
My PHP version is:7.2.29  
**Your problem**

My problem is:  
Can I migrate to upgraded version and import prior database records?  
These errors are showing in the log:

Steps I have tried to fix the problem:

I cannot seem to resolve Mautic log and debug errors that are preventing an upgrade to 2.16.2.

My last alternative is to do a clean install - can I do that while also importing or otherwise bringing in 2.16.0 database records and lists and form and campaign?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![deepti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/deepti/32/411_2.png) [@deepti](https://forum.mautic.org/u/deepti)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/2 "2020-04-18T16:56:08Z")

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1. First install as the older version of database you have

2. Second upgrade the mautic

3. Migrate the database

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**Author:** ![bulgin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/bulgin/32/1001_2.png) [@bulgin](https://forum.mautic.org/u/bulgin)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/3 "2020-04-18T17:13:09Z")

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Thanks deepti - so I understand are you suggesting I re-install the older version then upgrade, then migrate?

My issue is that I cannot upgrade from 2.16.0 --\> 2.16.2 using my _existing_ install. But I gather you are suggesting I re-install 2.16.0 and without any new records or forms or campaigns, upgrade that, then migrate database, correct?

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**Author:** ![bulgin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/bulgin/32/1001_2.png) [@bulgin](https://forum.mautic.org/u/bulgin)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/4 "2020-04-18T17:20:54Z")

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On the other hand, why can’t I just do a new install and replace the database references - password and database - in the new install’s config file pointing from the new database to the 2.16.0 database?

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**Author:** ![deepti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/deepti/32/411_2.png) [@deepti](https://forum.mautic.org/u/deepti)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/5 "2020-04-18T17:26:16Z")

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you can but make sure the new mautic is as old version , so no data will loss. and also you should add all your old mautic files to new one , so you will not get any image(media) broken link etc…

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**Author:** ![bulgin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/bulgin/32/1001_2.png) [@bulgin](https://forum.mautic.org/u/bulgin)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/6 "2020-04-18T17:42:11Z")

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Okay so the steps are:

1. backup and preserve 2.16.0 everything - directories and mysql databases.
2. reinstall 2.16.0 as a fresh install.
3. point new install of 2.16.0 to old 2.16.0 database.
4. upload images, etc,. to new 2.16.0 directories.
5. attempt upgrade to 2.16.2

Do I have that right?

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**Author:** ![sylvain59300](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/sylvain59300/32/2978_2.png) [@sylvain59300](https://forum.mautic.org/u/sylvain59300)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/7 "2020-07-30T23:38:28Z")

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Hi there, I have the same problem as you. My old mautic installation run out and I reinstalled it.  
I reupload the database but it does not run. How can I do?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![mikew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mikew/32/5156_2.png) [@mikew](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mikew)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/8 "2020-08-03T11:06:09Z")

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What version was the original mautic ? you should try and reinstall this version, then mysql -u root mautic \< yourdatabase.sql

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**Author:** ![namratasaun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/namratasaun/32/2801_2.png) [@namratasaun](https://forum.mautic.org/u/namratasaun)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/9 "2021-02-03T04:29:47Z")

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any solution to this?  
same problem

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**Author:** ![lexgabrees](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lexgabrees/32/4467_2.png) [@lexgabrees](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lexgabrees)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 8:58am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/10 "2021-02-03T08:58:00Z")

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What I usually do is :

1. Export the old DB (for example through Phpmyadmin)
2. Install new Mautic and let it create a new DB (which is empty now).
3. Import the old DB (for example through Phpmyadmin)
4. Change the Mautic config (local.php) to use the new DB.

Lex

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**Author:** ![joeyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/joeyk/32/11164_2.png) [@joeyk](https://forum.mautic.org/u/joeyk)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/11 "2021-02-03T12:13:15Z")

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The question is:  
can someone export a 2.16 DB and import it into 3.2.4? 🙂  
I think not. There must be steps to migrate the DB, I just don’t know how.  
I always installed an older version of Mautic with a matching DB and upgraded it.

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**Author:** ![lexgabrees](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lexgabrees/32/4467_2.png) [@lexgabrees](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lexgabrees)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/12 "2021-02-03T14:40:59Z")

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You are right … I didn’t see that it was 2.16 … silly …

I haven’t tried going from 2.x to 3.x to be honest …

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**Author:** ![namratasaun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/namratasaun/32/2801_2.png) [@namratasaun](https://forum.mautic.org/u/namratasaun)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/new-install-with-prior-database-possible/13960/13 "2021-02-03T17:06:08Z")

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thanks a lot @joeyk and @lexgabrees . will try to update before migrating.
