# Passing a lead from One Mautic to another on Open Mailer

**URL:** https://forum.mautic.org/t/passing-a-lead-from-one-mautic-to-another-on-open-mailer/20398
**Category:** Product Support
**Created:** [August 7, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/passing-a-lead-from-one-mautic-to-another-on-open-mailer/20398 "2021-08-07T13:30:04Z")
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### Author: ![joeyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/joeyk/32/11164_2.png) [@joeyk](https://forum.mautic.org/u/joeyk)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2021, 7:03am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/passing-a-lead-from-one-mautic-to-another-on-open-mailer/20398/9 "2021-08-15T07:03:22Z")

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No.  
You need to fire a tracking pixel before you create a new contact with the API.  
This problem is described here (you and me had a conversation on this):

> [@Tracking Code & Shopify Not Matching up to Contacts](https://forum.mautic.org/t/tracking-code-shopify-not-matching-up-to-contacts/16465/7):
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> Hey @jordan_ryan , thank you so much for the answer. To make sure I understand it right: Someone visits shopify as an anonymous contact, creating a cookie. This person purchases something, so I fire the tracking pixel containing the email address on the thank you page The contact’s anonymous profile is now extended with the email = converted into a known contact? Joey

There is a brilliant solution for this by Matthias Reich:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/mautic/original/2X/6/6a574f46bd5cd10be21979e83f0f453d2de59f8c.jpeg "Automatisierte Webinare mit Wordpress + Mautic inkl. Teilnehmer Tracking") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQFyPNngpIQ)

It’s in German, but he provides a very elegant code:  
Problem description min 17:00  
For the solution he is using a php redirect (again, brilliant!): min 23:00

Also @robm has a workaround, it is a different approach:

> [@Is anyone willing to share a template to allow me to communicate with the Mautic APi for $100?](https://forum.mautic.org/t/is-anyone-willing-to-share-a-template-to-allow-me-to-communicate-with-the-mautic-api-for-100/19473/36):
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> Here is my working solution to link Thrive Themes with Mautic. I think this method would work well for most 3rd party form builders, provided they can pass the form variables via URL. I am not using the API connection but it’s an alternative that enables the use of all Mautics actions. [[How to integrate Thrive Leads with Mautic] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLxz_xMXQ68)

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