# Starting new - Mautic 5 or Mautic 4

**URL:** <https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342>\
**Category:** Mautic 5 Install/Upgrade Support\
**Created:** [December 29, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342 "2023-12-29T13:59:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![aysal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/aysal/32/13028_2.png) [@aysal](https://forum.mautic.org/u/aysal)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342/1 "2023-12-29T13:59:42Z")

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Hi there,  
i found Mautic a few days ago and i want to replace my Email-Service (Mailerlite) with Mautic.  
Now we are in a translation from mautic 4 to mautic 5 and i ask myself?  
Should i sstart with Mautic 4, or with Mautic 5?  
Should i wait till Mautic 5 is released?  
And how can install mautic 5 on my Webspace? I can’t find a zip File 😃  
Can someone help me on that?  
Thx  
Ender

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**Author:** ![joeyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/joeyk/32/11164_2.png) [@joeyk](https://forum.mautic.org/u/joeyk)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 10:47am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342/2 "2023-12-30T10:47:34Z")

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Hi,

**No zip** , only composer from M5.  
**No webspace** , only VPS.

Steeper learning curve, bigger reward.

regards:  
Joey

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**Author:** ![aysal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/aysal/32/13028_2.png) [@aysal](https://forum.mautic.org/u/aysal)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342/3 "2023-12-30T13:00:05Z")

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Does rhat mean that for M5 i cant use Webspace anymore and i need a VPS?

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**Author:** ![joeyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/joeyk/32/11164_2.png) [@joeyk](https://forum.mautic.org/u/joeyk)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342/4 "2023-12-30T13:16:25Z")

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Well, kinda.  
If you have root access on your ‘Webspace’, and know composer, then you can have a Webspace for M5.

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**Author:** ![aysal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/aysal/32/13028_2.png) [@aysal](https://forum.mautic.org/u/aysal)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342/5 "2023-12-30T16:30:10Z")

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I installed composer and cant find how to update to Mautic 5

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**Author:** ![fjdh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a183cd/32.png) [@fjdh](https://forum.mautic.org/u/fjdh)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342/6 "2024-01-02T17:50:19Z")

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also need npm

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**Author:** ![hotstryker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/hotstryker/32/11147_2.png) [@hotstryker](https://forum.mautic.org/u/hotstryker)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/starting-new-mautic-5-or-mautic-4/30342/7 "2024-01-02T20:23:13Z")

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That’s interesting. I just installed v5.0.0-rc2 from zip file yesterday and in general everything has worked fine.

Is that going away with the official release? And if so, does that mean I’m going to have to re-install again, this time using composer?