# Understand how to use owners

**URL:** <https://forum.mautic.org/t/understand-how-to-use-owners/13351>\
**Category:** Product Support\
**Created:** [March 12, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/understand-how-to-use-owners/13351 "2020-03-12T18:20:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![giomasce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/giomasce/32/1979_2.png) [@giomasce](https://forum.mautic.org/u/giomasce)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/understand-how-to-use-owners/13351/1 "2020-03-12T18:20:53Z")

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**Your software**  
My Mautic version is: 2.15.1  
My PHP version is: 7.3.14-1~deb10u1

**Your problem**  
I have been a happy Mautic user for a few months now. It is very helpful for my wife’s digital business and we are mostly happy with it. Now she would like to start a new independent business and have another newsletter for that. She wishes that the two newsletters are completely independent: so either she is seeing contacts, segments, forms, whatever for business A or for business B. Not the two at the same time.

I would like to avoid maintaining two Mautic instances. I believe that what she would like can be done by creating two independent users in Mautic and let each user own the resources for that business. However, I don’t really get how to effectively manage objects’ owners. How do I see what is the owner for a certain segment/form/email/campaign? How do I set it? I can only do that for contacts. In the edit pages for all other categories, I can’t see a owner widget.

Also, is there a way to mass set all current objects to a certain owner? So far we have used the system using two users, one for me and one for her, both being superusers, so I am pretty sure ownerships are currently quite messed up.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![pierre\_a](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/pierre_a/32/7031_2.png) [@pierre\_a](https://forum.mautic.org/u/pierre_a)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/understand-how-to-use-owners/13351/2 "2022-04-25T16:01:27Z")

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Hello @giomasce,

Thanks for your message.  
The Mautic user can own a contact but not a segment/form/email/campaign.

If you are running two different brands I strongly recommend to have two separate instances.  
This is good practice with Mautic.

I look forward to continuing the discussion,  
Pierre