# Updated to v4 and I don't see the new Builder

**URL:** <https://forum.mautic.org/t/updated-to-v4-and-i-dont-see-the-new-builder/20693>\
**Category:** Product Support\
**Created:** [September 2, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updated-to-v4-and-i-dont-see-the-new-builder/20693 "2021-09-02T14:22:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![growthlab](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/growthlab/32/2029_2.png) [@growthlab](https://forum.mautic.org/u/growthlab)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updated-to-v4-and-i-dont-see-the-new-builder/20693/1 "2021-09-02T14:22:50Z")

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**Your software**  
My Mautic version is: 4  
My PHP version is: 7.4.22  
My Database type and version is: 10.3.31-MariaDB-cll-lve

**Your problem**  
My problem is: I just updated to v4 and when I go to the email editor I am still getting the old builder. I don’t see any of the new templates either. I do not have the builder plugin installed.

I’m assuming (based on this text from the 4.0 blog post: _The new email and landing page builder is enabled by default - you can disable it under Plugins if you prefer to continue using the legacy builder_) that I should be able to simply navigate to the email builder and start to create templates using the new builder. However, that doesn’t seem to be the case.

Important note: I have never used the new builder, I never installed the plugin in v3.3.

These errors are showing in the log: No errors shown in the log.

Steps I have tried to fix the problem: I verified that the upgrade to 4.0 was done successfully (via console) and no errors are present in the Mautic error log.