# Updating from M3.3.3 \> 5.03 (data only) **URL:** \ **Category:** Mautic 5 Install/Upgrade Support\ **Created:** [March 25, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425 "2024-03-25T03:33:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mkaaaay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mkaaaay/32/4707_2.png) [@mkaaaay](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mkaaaay)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/1 "2024-03-25T03:33:47Z")
**Your software** My Mautic version is: 3.3.3 \> 5.03 My PHP version is: 8.1 My Database type and version is: mariadb 10.6 So, I want to upgrade to M5 but ideally as a new, fresh install. My question is, how can best sync my data? What’s the best way to go from 3.3.3 to 5.03? Thanks a lot. ---
**Author:** ![mzagmajster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mzagmajster/32/687_2.png) [@mzagmajster](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mzagmajster)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/2 "2024-03-25T13:20:25Z")
OK, this is how I would approach it: 1. backup everything (database and files) 2. migrate to the latest 3.x series using official guide (CLI method) 3. from the latest 3.x migrate to the latest 4.x using official guide (CLI method) 4. from the latest 4.x, migrate to the latest 5.x series using official guide (CLI nethod) 5. Backup database, local.php, media files, etc. 6. Install new instance and copy files from point #5 to the new instance Best, M. ---
**Author:** ![mkaaaay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mkaaaay/32/4707_2.png) [@mkaaaay](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mkaaaay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/3 "2024-03-26T02:07:50Z")
This is an absolute nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![mzagmajster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mzagmajster/32/687_2.png) [@mzagmajster](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mzagmajster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 6:49am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/4 "2024-03-26T06:49:52Z")
Well, you need to apply all the migrations and since migration files are moved out on each major release, you have to update to each major release separately. If you need assistance with the process, drop me PM. Best, M. ---
**Author:** ![mkaaaay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mkaaaay/32/4707_2.png) [@mkaaaay](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mkaaaay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/5 "2024-03-26T11:57:36Z")
Thanks, I ended up manually porting the data across to a fresh install. Was easier that way. Seems Amazon SES is not working though. Broadcast terminal cmd says it sends but nothing arrives. Appears SES integration is far from complete. ---
**Author:** ![mzagmajster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mzagmajster/32/687_2.png) [@mzagmajster](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mzagmajster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/6 "2024-03-26T12:35:25Z")
ok, what ses plugin are you using? ---
**Author:** ![mkaaaay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mkaaaay/32/4707_2.png) [@mkaaaay](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mkaaaay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/7 "2024-03-26T13:01:30Z")
Actually, my issue was due to MX priority I think. however, I’m not sure if the bounce / complaint thing is handled by symfony/amazon-mailer:6.4.3 Do you know? If not then we can’t really use it, right? ---
**Author:** ![mzagmajster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mzagmajster/32/687_2.png) [@mzagmajster](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mzagmajster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/8 "2024-03-26T15:05:20Z")
So for emailing you cannot use just standalone package from symfony, because it doesnt handle the bounces. You need to install a plugin that adds the ability to handle webhook requests from amazon. There are a couple of integrations out there. I played a bit with this one: [GitHub - mzagmajster/mautic-ses-plugin](https://github.com/mzagmajster/mautic-ses-plugin) , but it lacks proper testing so it might not work. Basically despite installing the transport from symfony you need to install mautic plugin as well. Best, M. ---
**Author:** ![mkaaaay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mkaaaay/32/4707_2.png) [@mkaaaay](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mkaaaay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/9 "2024-03-26T22:22:51Z")
ok ty very much. I’m kind of gobsmacked this isn’t more widely documented. Speaking of which, there seems to be no instructions on how to install this. Do you know where that is? ---
**Author:** ![mzagmajster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mzagmajster/32/687_2.png) [@mzagmajster](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mzagmajster)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/updating-from-m3-3-3-5-03-data-only/31425/10 "2024-03-27T18:09:10Z")
Go here: > **[GitHub - mzagmajster/mautic-ses-plugin at dev\_mautic5](https://github.com/mzagmajster/mautic-ses-plugin/tree/dev_mautic5)** > > dev\_mautic5 and you have readme file, that describes the install process. Make sure you use dev\_mautic branch