# Where can i find my mautic directory? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** discussion\ **Created:** [December 27, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580 "2020-12-27T03:58:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580/1 "2020-12-27T03:58:48Z")
I am working on the upgrade from 2.16 to 3.0.0 and the first thing it asks me to do is locate my mautic directory. Being so new at this I am not sure… in the cpanel under public\_html/plugin in the plugin directory I can see a ton of mautic plugings… so is the public\_html directory my mautics directory or is it the plugin directory… Thanks… And the next line is for me to activate this… php bin/console mautic:update:find To find out if any updates are available for inststalll… it says error cannot find bin/console Is php bin/console the location of my php.exe file… and do i need to hunt if up and if not at bin/console then use its actual location here… Sorry I am so dumb but i am a fast learner… ---
**Author:** ![mikew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/mikew/32/5156_2.png) [@mikew](https://forum.mautic.org/u/mikew)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580/2 "2020-12-27T15:52:32Z")
Hey @tommytx123 you are far from dumb - firstly you found Mautic!! You are just lacking in experience in setting it up. I am not that familiar myself working inside cpanel - usually I am working in shell. inside your public\_html. do you see a directory for Mautic ? if not maybe look in your root directory. Next is activating your cronjob, and here I am at a bit of a loss with cpanel. My suggestion is to dump this hosting and run off a server on Digital Ocean - much easier. You can follow the setup here: [https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-mautic-self-hosted-email-marketing-ubuntu-20-04](https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-mautic-self-hosted-email-marketing-ubuntu-20-04). Let me know how things go ---
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580/3 "2020-12-28T01:41:39Z")
Thanks for that mikew… but i will be working from SSL (isn’t that the same as Shell or Command line… but was just using cpanel to make it easy to look around… but I do not see any of the directories they are calling out for the upgrade. Crons are all set in CPANEL and the entire site is working fine… just needs the update… Someone else set it up for me so I am in the learning mode to update it… And thanks for the suggestion to new server but I am running on my own server (self managed) and its the very top of the line… the mautic serves 5 other real estate websites and the mautic is running on its own domain by itself… ---
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580/4 "2020-12-28T01:45:18Z")
I have to set up a second Mautic on another domain to server 10 more sites… and so maybe i will tackle the other set up from scratch so I will be more familiar with matic in general and maybe be better at navigating the shell of Mautic… and then do the upgrade… I assume setting up a new one from scratch will already have the ver 3.0 installed… or no? ---
**Author:** ![devsrealm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/devsrealm/32/3669_2.png) [@devsrealm](https://forum.mautic.org/u/devsrealm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580/5 "2020-12-28T02:09:17Z")
> [@tommytx123](#): > > Crons are all set in CPANEL and the entire site is working fine Where are the CRON pointing to? That is the answer to your mautic directory 😉 If you have something like `/var/www/mautic/app/console` then the directory is `/var/www/mautic` ---
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580/6 "2020-12-28T03:29:32Z")
Thanks for that Devsrealm… that helps a lot… so here is one of a dozen crons… `php /home/luxuryrnet/public_html/app/console mautic:emails:send` So does this mean that my Mautic directory is located at public\_html and that explains why I could not find the name Mautic… like when on a subdirectory. So my Mautic directory is actually in my public\_html… That is not one of the recommended places, the install says use subdomain or subdirectory… and neither was done… Do you have any experience if this install is used frequently or never, I have 5 setup this way wondering if i should redo htem into a subdirectory… I am doing a brand new install now and plan to use [mydomain.com/Mautic](http://mydomain.com/Mautic) will my url above then look like this `/var/www/mautic/app/console` if i use [mydomain.net/mautic](http://mydomain.net/mautic) I am using SSH to see this is that ok… Is SSH same as shell… Thanks again this has been very helpful and shed a lot of light. ’ So when the upgrade instructions say go here… php bin/console mautic:update:find In my case do i go here: `php /home/luxuryrnet/public\_html/app/console mautic:update:find instead… Since public is now my mautic directory persay… ---
**Author:** ![devsrealm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/devsrealm/32/3669_2.png) [@devsrealm](https://forum.mautic.org/u/devsrealm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580/7 "2020-12-28T23:14:17Z")
Sorry I didn’t get back to you, when replying to a post, click on the reply button under whatever message you want to reply to, this way I can get a notification. That out of the way… > [@tommytx123](#): > > `php /home/luxuryrnet/public_html/app/console mautic:emails:send` > So does this mean that my Mautic directory is located at public\_html Yh, your mautic is located under `/home/luxuryrnet/public_html` > [@tommytx123](#): > > So my Mautic directory is actually in my public\_html No, your public\_html is located under the /home/ luxuryrnet which is different from just public\_html alone. This `/home/ luxuryrnet/public_html` is different from just this `/public_html` > [@tommytx123](#): > > hat is not one of the recommended places, the install says use subdomain or subdirectory… If you would only be having one mautic instance, it doesn’t matter, but if you would be having multple instances, I can place different mautic directory under: - /home/user1/public\_html - /home/user2/public\_html - /home/user3/public\_html What I’ll recommend is creating a new mautic directory under the public\_html, like so: - /home/user1/public\_html/mautic - /home/user2/public\_html/mautic This way, you can host other stuff without conflicts. E.g Wordpress: - /home/user1/public\_html/wordpress So, keep your app in a separate directory. > [@tommytx123](#): > > I am doing a brand new install now and plan to use [mydomain.com/Mautic](http://mydomain.com/Mautic) will my url above then look like this > `/var/www/mautic/app/console` if i use [mydomain.net/mautic](http://mydomain.net/mautic) Yh sure, it doesn’t matter. You can either go with the one I outlined above or if you know you would be hosting multiple mautic, you can separate them by the username: - /var/www/user1/mautic - /var/www/user2/mautic These are just structures, so, no strict rules. > [@tommytx123](#): > > I am using SSH to see this is that ok… Is SSH same as shell… No, SSH provides you a secure way to access a shell or terminal from another computer. > [@tommytx123](#): > > So when the upgrade instructions say go here… > php bin/console mautic:update:find > In my case do i go here: > `php /home/luxuryrnet/public\_html/app/console mautic:update:find > instead… > Since public is now my mautic directory persay… Yh, correct ---
**Author:** ![tommytx123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/tommytx123/32/833_2.png) [@tommytx123](https://forum.mautic.org/u/tommytx123)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/where-can-i-find-my-mautic-directory/17580/8 "2020-12-29T00:55:15Z")
Is this the correct reply button… it was just at the bottom of your comment page… And thank you so much for all your help its making it understandaable for me… \*\*\*\*\* Have you come across any good youtube that makes a lot of stuff clear? My partner and I are doing real estate websites and each has its own mautic… like the website name might be… [mydomain.com](http://mydomain.com) then the mautic would be [mydomain.net](http://mydomain.net) and due to the monster size of data on each one the plan is to never run anything on the mautic but Mautic. and when I started with this (my first new site) I saw Mautic recommended either a subdomain or a subdirectory… and i started to use subdirectory as you suggested… but then I saw he had 6 other Mautics using the \_public\_html to load the zipped data and decided to follow his way since its been working well and that we we do not end up with some sites with a pathway one way and others a pathway another way… So if what i am doing is ok I think i will keep it…that is using public\_html to hold the site and no subdirectory… Again thanks for all the help. Ok going back to the other question i posted… the two new extentions that i refer to are not in any of our previous sites… and all of them are I think 2.16 version…