# Which is the correct cron job - emails:send or messenger:consume email

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**Created:** [May 17, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103 "2024-05-17T19:54:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![captainmorgan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/captainmorgan/32/12897_2.png) [@captainmorgan](https://forum.mautic.org/u/captainmorgan)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103/1 "2024-05-17T19:54:20Z")

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I’m using Mautic 4.x

I’m confused about which cron job I need to process the email queue. The documentation says to use `messenger:consume email` but all the various tutorials say to use `emails:send` - which isn’t mentioned in the [docs](https://docs.mautic.org/en/4.x/configuration/cron_jobs.html)

So which do I use?

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**Author:** ![dirk\_s](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/dirk_s/32/748_2.png) [@dirk\_s](https://forum.mautic.org/u/dirk_s)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103/2 "2024-09-19T14:54:45Z")

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> [@captainmorgan](#):
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> `messenger:consume email`

messenger:consume email is Mautic 5…

mautic:emails:send is Mautic 4…

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**Author:** ![joeyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/joeyk/32/11164_2.png) [@joeyk](https://forum.mautic.org/u/joeyk)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103/3 "2024-09-19T14:58:20Z")

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Hello Captain,

Here is a video if you need a deep dive:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/mautic/original/2X/2/2575566548a85691dc06aa9398a0a63322ee89f8.jpeg "Mautic 5: This is how email sending works in 2024") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNvDfX-sBmA)

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**Author:** ![rcarabelli](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/rcarabelli/32/6807_2.png) [@rcarabelli](https://forum.mautic.org/u/rcarabelli)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103/4 "2024-09-19T15:50:55Z")

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Hello dirk, you need 3 crons for doctrine to work:

1. The one to populate the campaign contacts: `/bin/console mautic:campaigns:update`
2. The one to prepare the queue in the database (that will actually create the messages to be sent and save them to the database, message\_messages table: `/bin/console mautic:campaigns:trigger`
3. The doctrine worker, that will actually send the messages that are waiting message\_messages table: `/bin/console messenger:consume email`

The last one have options like how much messages to send each run, the timeout, the max memory it can use before closing, etc.

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**Author:** ![captainmorgan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/captainmorgan/32/12897_2.png) [@captainmorgan](https://forum.mautic.org/u/captainmorgan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103/5 "2024-09-24T17:51:03Z")

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I’m using Mautic 4

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**Author:** ![joeyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/joeyk/32/11164_2.png) [@joeyk](https://forum.mautic.org/u/joeyk)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103/6 "2024-09-24T18:03:11Z")

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Here you go, this explains everthing to you:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/mautic/original/2X/4/44af713b74f2b3072d1812a03cfd5a2d33b32c8f.jpeg "This Is How Email Sending Works In Mautic") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJcen6XDuEc)

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**Author:** ![dirk\_s](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/dirk_s/32/748_2.png) [@dirk\_s](https://forum.mautic.org/u/dirk_s)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103/7 "2024-09-25T21:43:42Z")

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Thanks - thats true. I only referred to the mailing task.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/mautic/original/1X/43c63600fe51440378769136903f1fa2a9a34102.png) [@system](https://forum.mautic.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 9:44am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/which-is-the-correct-cron-job-emails-send-or-messenger-consume-email/32103/8 "2024-09-27T09:44:18Z")

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