# Why should one upgrade to Mautic v3? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 17, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342 "2020-01-17T13:15:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lalurran](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lalurran/32/570_2.png) [@lalurran](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lalurran)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/1 "2020-01-17T13:15:27Z")
Hi Mautic community Mautic v3 is around the corner and that makes me wondering if it’s worth upgrading to it, if yes should one upgrade right away or wait a few months after the stable has been released? If you’re on team “Update to v3” please give me a few reasons why. Thanks! 🙂 Best regards ---
**Author:** ![Yosu\_Cadilla](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/yosu_cadilla/32/6206_2.png) [@Yosu\_Cadilla](https://forum.mautic.org/u/Yosu_Cadilla)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/2 "2020-01-17T13:38:13Z")
Hello @lalurran I am not part of the team, but I wrote a post about the possible dangers. > **[Mautic 3 is dead, long live Mautic 3! | mauteam.org](https://mauteam.org/opinion/mautic-3-is-dead-long-live-mautic-3/)** > > A new Mautic 3 concept is born, Microservices might need to wait for a while more. I also keep a page where you can check the “status” of different Mautic releases: > **[Direct Mautic Download. No forms to fill, just one click.](https://mauteam.org/download-mautic/download-mautic/)** > > Download Mautic Self-Hosted. Here you’ll find all the information to make an informed decision about which Mautic version is best suited to your needs. **All in all, I would say it is too soon to make that decision and of course this decision will look different for different people with different needs.** **Start testing it** (not on your production server), **help with bug discovery and smashing** (you will gain a lot of knowledge by doing so) and wait at least until the release of Mautic 3.0 Stable to decide for yourself. Answer these questions in order to determine if you have to switch ASAP or wait for a while: - Are you a developer? a Sys admin/OPS? a marketer/final user? - Is uptime important to you? Are the latest features important to you? - Are you allowed to run unsupported software (Symfony 2.x) in your organization? - Do you currently use any plugins that are for Mautic 2.x only? Can you migrate those plugins by yourself? ---
**Author:** ![lalurran](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lalurran/32/570_2.png) [@lalurran](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lalurran)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/3 "2020-01-17T19:06:57Z")
I read the blog post and from what is stated there Mautic 3 is primarily a migration from Symphony 2.x to Symfony 3.x. That upgrade is not important for my organisation in this moment so we’ll probably wait with the update. If not anyone else has good arguments why we should make a switch? ---
**Author:** ![autoize](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/autoize/32/105_2.png) [@autoize](https://forum.mautic.org/u/autoize)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/4 "2020-01-17T22:30:48Z")
Even though based on the pre-release versions it looks like not much has changed in Mautic 3, the upgrade to the new version of the Symfony framework is important, because the previous version of Symfony will no longer receive security fixes. Mautic 3.0.0 upgrades the Symfony framework to version 3.4, which receives long term support [through to November 2021](https://symfony.com/releases). Also Mautic 3 supports PHP 7.3 extending security support through to December 2021. We tested the alpha version of Mautic 3 and are pleased to see that almost all of the existing features and integrations have been successfully ported over to the 3.x branch of Mautic. Yosu’s remarks about the uncertainty of Mautic 3 are based on the status of the project just after the Acquia acquisition of Mautic Inc. Now that Acquia’s engineering team has been lending support to Mautic to develop Mautic 3 for over 6 months, the project is in a much better shape. Although users might understandably not want to update to the 3.0.0 release of Mautic, we would strongly suggest them to upgrade as soon as 3.0.1 or 3.0.2 are released. Here are our [impressions about Mautic 3](https://autoize.com/mautic-3-support/). ---
**Author:** ![lalurran](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lalurran/32/570_2.png) [@lalurran](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lalurran)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/5 "2020-01-19T21:04:36Z")
Thank you for the update, autoize. ---
**Author:** ![iamisearojob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/iamisearojob/32/2197_2.png) [@iamisearojob](https://forum.mautic.org/u/iamisearojob)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 5:53am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/6 "2020-03-20T05:53:50Z")
Am waiting for mautic 3 and expecting all bugs in other version fixed as currently am considering switching because of so many bug and its like for coders who can fix issues not for end users with no programming skills. Well i love mautic and trying to see solutions to hang around until mautic 3 is stable because i think as they are acquire they will be improved by Acquia except they want to show us their platform is as buggy as mautic. ---
**Author:** ![lalurran](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lalurran/32/570_2.png) [@lalurran](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lalurran)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/7 "2020-03-20T14:49:35Z")
Don’t expect to many of the bugs to be fixed initially, that’s my take on the release of 3.0 at least. But I suppose Acquia will continue doing improvements and in a year or two many of the bugs will be squashed. ---
**Author:** ![iamisearojob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/iamisearojob/32/2197_2.png) [@iamisearojob](https://forum.mautic.org/u/iamisearojob)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 2:34am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/8 "2020-03-21T02:34:01Z")
Okay so sad Mautic will die for a while until bugs are fixed Its only good at creating forms,collecting emails but anything with segment and campaigns leads to chaos. Good luck with trying to get frustration ---
**Author:** ![lalurran](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lalurran/32/570_2.png) [@lalurran](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lalurran)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/9 "2020-03-22T18:40:12Z")
I think Mautic works pretty well. Which bugs are the most frustrating would you say? ---
**Author:** ![iamisearojob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/iamisearojob/32/2197_2.png) [@iamisearojob](https://forum.mautic.org/u/iamisearojob)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/10 "2020-03-22T19:42:45Z")
Page Hit This is the most important feature for me in my flow and its not working well Its used to change user from one campaign or segment to another Eg i want to move a lead to on boarding campaign after he buys and visit purchase complete page. or after a user signs up i want him to visit a page and be updated to another segment from pending confirmation to confirmed email list. In my installation page visit works when it likes when it doesn’t work i need to click the link in the confirmation link again and the segments gets updated again but users cant click link twice. Am sure you are not using the feature of Page visit in your flows! are you? ---
**Author:** ![lalurran](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lalurran/32/570_2.png) [@lalurran](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lalurran)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/11 "2020-03-22T20:29:46Z")
No, I’m not using it. Planned on using it for opt-in functionality (verifying an email address) but maybe it can be implemented some other way? ---
**Author:** ![iamisearojob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/iamisearojob/32/2197_2.png) [@iamisearojob](https://forum.mautic.org/u/iamisearojob)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/12 "2020-03-22T21:49:28Z")
There are no way you can to do that without the page hit working properly so the moment you said all if fine i noticed you use it for just collecting leads and sending emails you are not using the main automation feature that nurture leads through segmentation and campaigns flows ---
**Author:** ![lalurran](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lalurran/32/570_2.png) [@lalurran](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lalurran)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/13 "2020-03-22T22:08:11Z")
That sucks. I’ll try it out anyway. Hopefully it works most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![iamisearojob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/iamisearojob/32/2197_2.png) [@iamisearojob](https://forum.mautic.org/u/iamisearojob)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/14 "2020-03-23T06:59:02Z")
How does that sucks? I dont understand you what you mean by it sucks. Its being able to automatically segment leads and using campaigns to send matching emails is what makes it marketing automation. ---
**Author:** ![lalurran](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/lalurran/32/570_2.png) [@lalurran](https://forum.mautic.org/u/lalurran)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/15 "2020-03-23T10:37:30Z")
I meant that it’s unfortunate bugs exist in the page hit functionality. Sorry for the confusion ---
**Author:** ![iamisearojob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.mautic.org/iamisearojob/32/2197_2.png) [@iamisearojob](https://forum.mautic.org/u/iamisearojob)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.mautic.org/t/why-should-one-upgrade-to-mautic-v3/12342/16 "2020-03-24T09:40:22Z")
okay That function is very important like anything is it gives power for automated list segmentation